Regarding A Serious Topic

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ORIGINAL CANON RELATIONSHIPS
Nu~ please~ don't leave me~ hear me out

I was talking about the above topic with a fellow member, Elsa, and I have been directed here to share our discussion with the board.

What is exactly wrong with them?

That's a good question, Nivvy.  Nothing is wrong with them other than the possible problems they could create and the public reaction.

Well, it seems like your statement is contradicting.

Well, let me go on why they could be bad, and why those reasons don't make sense.  First issue that was brought up was the idea of people leaving.  People have left this site and will continue to do so; as others will continue to join.  So what happens when Zidane is getting along very swimmingly with Antique, just throwing names out there, and Zidane just poofs?  Well, other than throwing coconuts at Zid, we have an issue as Antique was in a relationship with Zidane.  Now he is gone in this situation.
BUT
This could happen with OC relationships as well.  We'll put my character, Shiro, and Antique together, and let's say I poof for good.  Well, what is Antique going to do if she doesn't have the Shiro-bear?  Well, that's completely up to the rper, just as it always would.  They could have broken up, Shiro died, etc. etc. etc.  And then if I came back along with Shiro, and we decided to resume the relationship?  PLOT HOLES GALORE, but we have a lot of them to begin with, so what could one more do?

So you're saying that the same could happen with original canon relationships too?

Yes, that is my exact message.  

What if when Zidane left, another new person took up Zidane?

Just as it has been with past canon characters, the new rper always has their choice on what has happened.  This would be the exact same thing.  It would always be the current canon rpers to work it out between themselves on what happens/happened to the pairing.

But I don't want Cloud to be with Tifa, as that's what EVERYONE would do.  I like the original pairing with Aeirith

Fair enough, but why can't the canon characters without any established romance be paired up with other un-established romance Canons or original characters?  Especially if the problems that they could create could be solved just like any other canon plot hole we've encountered?  My character is currently Ansem's bitch.  What if the next Ansem doesn't want my character under his wing?  We'd work something out.  I've just seen canon characters flirt and romanticize with other characters, but yet they have the rule against them that they can't be an official site pairing.  I personally would love to see this rule modified.  Any input?

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*cough* Kjell *cough*
Although I experienced another problem with free range relationships (even though I'm completely for them), which is relationship drama.
The rules make it so there's less of it, and free pairings often causes members to focus more on romance than meaningful plot.

But then sometimes (less frequently) people app canons just for the ship and not for the plotting so there's a problem there as well...

However, with proper discipline regarding this I feel that trying the concept out could be beneficial, if for nothing more than proof of why the rule is implemented.

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*on a phone, so excuse meh grammar*. I've seen that happen as well, but looking at our large existing community, I find it hard to believe that all of us, who are used to not having canon relationships, will immediately jump on the bandwagon and let relationship drama run the site. I sincerely doubt it, although for newer members coming in, I can't say anything new about them. Maybe if this rule were to be edited temporarily, there could be a side note that characters are not to be apped for strictly romance.

Regarding discipline, it is not that hard to spot out a post thats meant for romance. If its just romance with one or two characters that fills up their threads, I'm sure someone would notice. I mean, like me, in my spare time, if i have nothing to do, i read others' threads. If it ever got to the point where when I think of the character and I associate him/her with romance, I'd report it; as you're right, having a romance drama filled site would suck.

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II think this is mentioning multiple things under the guise of “relationships”.

1.) There really isn’t continuity for canons going from one rper to another.

This have its pro’s and con’s such as not knowing what the other did or was involved in. That’s why it’s good to have a journal for people can always learn. For this place being a sandbox, this lack of continuity gives people freedom to play the character how they choose, while still IC. Presently I think if there’s a used canon with a new/different rper, and you want to continue stuff, just inform them. If they said no, just Elsa’d it and “Let It Go”; generally speaking I’ve seen considerate rpers who don’t mind continuing plots if it interests them.

2.) Luv <3

If you’ve traveled the boards of rps, you’ll know exactly why and how this becomes problematic. What already shouldn’t be the MAIN focus (romance), people can get it out of hand and OOC. From my experience at a kh site, enough people don’t know how to enjoy/rp their OTPs (be it amongst original characters, canons, etc) with discretion. I’ve seen it gone overboard to the point it isn’t KH or FF anymore.

Once at a Disney site, I’ve seen the awkward derp derp of Fox and the Hound’s Vixie and Brer Fox pairing, and most of their threads are courtship and having fox babies.  Too many people displayed poorly in discretion, and rules are made; once you’ve seen the ugly side of it, the ruling is something you can live with.

I played a Kairi at WD, who legitimately had affection towards multiple guys WITH reasons; I think most of the time it’s just admiration. Before I had her, someone had her dating Leon, an awkward derp derp I was okay to keep buried. Because she dated Leon, Sora moved onto someone else. BAM as soon as I get Kairi, there’s a history of awkward derp derp.  Not everyone wants to be shackled to someone else’s awkward derp derps when apping characters.


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As an experienced rper (or at least that's how I like to see myself), I have thought "daaaw my character is limited in an aspect I haven't even thought of or currently exploring"; but as the rper I am, I let my characters be who they are, respond how they would (how I think they would...most of they time they don't even know), etc etc. *shrugs* I live with it and work around it, since the ruling isn't the End of the World.

~-~ Unrequited love can be a beautiful twist to the common overflow of "hey let's date."; also I've seen unofficial pairings just for sport in the cbox, and you have skype. You can have your cake and eat it to, but you can't over indulge here on the boards. [insert shrugs here]

 So my question is "What occurred to make this a priority?". It is a bit discerning that this IS a topic to begin with.To elaborate, this rule is generally here to put a cap to all of huffabaloo that @olette mentioned. The fact that it's even brought up just looks like a prelude to the very thing the staff wanted to avoid. I'm sure it's appropriate to call it a Pandora's Box.

Overall I'm indifferent; I can live with the ruling as is, and I have in other places. If I cared to explore a romance with them
I may just ask on the side to conduct elsewhere. I've seen the good, the bad, the ugly, and the WTFAGUN. I've seen experienced rpers use their discretion eloquently; I've seen people precariously live through their characters' love stories, which can alleviate to what they LOVE to call "Mature RPs". You spazz and realize...


because they're not your character, yet they can influence and tarnish the site's appeal.

As being a WD member, Shiro you  should recall all the CRAY CRAY, and
I can share the CRAY CRAY another time;
I've seen far too much to the point I wonder is it really worth it,

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I just talked to Yazoo about such, and apparently this discussion wasn't needed in the first place. My bad. May Yazoo lock and archive it?